That’s not what you said. You made an argument for context in which it would be understandable for someone to think women hated sex based on the actions of anti-porn feminists, implying an apology for Stephen.
If I didn’t know better (i.e. thanks to my own activism and personal life), even I would be inclined to believe women hate sex. Needless to say, I know that is not true, but that’s what’s given space in media. Because Fry is a public figure, one should expect better from him (i.e. that he should know that’s not the case).
Also I don’t understand why you think people in general would confuse women’s attitude to sex with the entire feminist movement. Stephen is an older man with long-noted negative attitudes to sex. His words & attitudes ARE misogynistic.
Have you seen UK press lately? It is plagued with feminist voices advocating for the ban of porn. It is quite a strong movement and it does get a lot of traction at the moment. These openly identified feminist activists are leading a call for eliminating sexual representations from the public eye. This is what’s passing for feminism at the moment in media. I know it’s not the totality of the movement, however, the campaigns are not aimed at people like me.
It’s not only the current feminism, who could ever forgot Alice Schwarzer’s PorNO! campaign.
This is the legacy of Dworkin as well…
I feel like you’re derailing what should be a critical discussion of Fry’s misogyny to talk about something else. Something else that NEEDS to be talked about & criticised, YES, but separate to Fry.
Derailing what? It’s not like I posted this in a public forum where people were discussing Fry and I purposefully interrupted the conversation to impose my argument. It was just an entry in my own blog where I tried to (albeit by the reactions I got not very eloquently) to offer a counter argument to the backlash. Perhaps I am less fazed by Fry’s statement than I am by supposed allies telling me that sex is “bad”. Also, I do not hold Fry as representative of anything so I am less offended by his statements than I am by a campaign organized by feminist activists to close lapdance clubs (see Object UK’s website for details on that). I see Fry’s statements as a lot less damaging than the current debates around these parts to close down the Redlight district entirely. Not that I think his statements are innocent, only that I do not feel personally enraged by them.
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